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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Hoygaard:
<strong>Mel,
Have a look on the first picture, I think it's odd the car can travel at such a speed, and only consume 13-14 l of gas per 100 Km.
Maybe the rear end is jacked up.  , or that'll be the most economical Beemer ever.
Cheers
Hoygaard</strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hoygaard,
You might be very right you know! eek! That's why he got the check brakelights!!!!!!  WE GOT A CHEATER! 

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mel Bonkers:
<strong>Hans,
Great picture man! Definitely top notch! By the way, the car can go faster, since you're not ' touching' the rev limiter (red area?), right?
</strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Most cars top speed is limited by its maximum power in combination with the aerodynamic drag force (which is relevant to the square of speed).
And maximum power is accomplished, in most cases, lower than the maximum RPM.
The other possibility is that its limited by the combination of the rev limiter and the total transmission (differential + wheels diameter) ratio. But I don't think that is the case with the 147.
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05-01-2003
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mel Bonkers:
<strong>Hans,
Great picture man! Definitely top notch! By the way, the car can go faster, since you're not ' touching' the rev limiter (red area?), right?
</strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's true but to go any faster I need to go down hill or have the wind in the back or slipstreaming (or a combination of those).
Selespeed
BTW the computer displayed a fuel consumption of 1 litre every 4 kms at top speed. Due to the flash you can't hardly see it on the pic. Since this is the maximum the board computer shows you, the real consumption can even be worse.
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05-01-2003
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jomor:
[QB...You should post this pic on BMW and Audi forum...[/QB]<hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Talking about BMW:
I overtook a BMW X5 4.4i which was driving at top speed (The X5 has a limited topspeed of 207 km/h if it isn't equiped with the sportpack). When I looked at the driver he certainly wasn't pleased
Selespeed
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05-01-2003
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back to the topic
just took my alfa for a ride and when i drove i remembered the debate going on here wink so here are the times.
AR 145 2.0 QV:
80 - 120 (in IV. gear): cca. 8.1s
80 - 120 (in V. gear): cca 10.2s
it's not so accurate probably but enough for orientation. just 2 attempts made. weather -> snowing  so the road was wet, temp. 1°C...
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by selespeed:
<strong>Talking about BMW:
I overtook a BMW X5 4.4i which was driving at top speed (The X5 has a limited topspeed of 207 km/h if it isn't equiped with the sportpack). When I looked at the driver he certainly wasn't pleased
Selespeed</strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Way to go Hans!!
So, here's what my Bella can do to some bemmers...
Even curving it's the best  wink
http://homepage.oninet.pt/083mep/mis...atmotorway.jpg
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by hugo147:
<strong>So, here's what my Bella can do to some bemmers...
Even curving it's the best  wink
http://homepage.oninet.pt/083mep/mis...atmotorway.jpg</strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hugo,
Great job, you can join the club of daredevils.
But I think it is kind of weird that your speedometer shows a higher speed then mine, since your Bella has 30 hp less.
Selespeed
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Aeneas:
<strong>Sometimes I just don't understand myself... wink
But please Ivo, explain the Satnav speedo feature... wink </strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Aeneas,
Sorry I have an aftermarket (REAL  ) navigation system  , so not the Connect Nav+ thingy ...

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by selespeed:
<strong>[quote]Originally posted by hugo147:
[qb]So, here's what my Bella can do to some bemmers...
Even curving it's the best  wink
[IMG]But I think it is kind of weird that your speedometer shows a higher speed then mine, since your Bella has 30 hp less.
Selespeed</strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">no, it's not so weird... ; the maximum speed depends of some factors like, humidity, temperature, fuel...
I already opened a topic about the top speed...
I had 2 different top speeds with my car:
on the highway both, but one in the night, with cold and humid weather (215 top speed)and one during the day, with 20 degrees celsius (over 225 km/h)...
so...

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you can't love anything...
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I guess we have a new GUESS WHICH AO IS SPEEDING COMPETITION, don't you think 
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it's really strange.. all merc seem to rev really low, i think that's why they tend to have a low bhp rating, but then have more torque than normal.
this is my dad in Italy, and my bro snapping away with the digicam, with his completely standard E200 (2litre, 136bhp) (it's got sports suspension, but whats that got to do with it?)
210kmph and 5,000rpm!! and Hugo's pic shows 230km/h and 7,000 rpm!
http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00251923f00000044.jpg
btw, this is my bro doing 160 in his corsa! wink
http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00251923f00000045.jpg
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Thats a very narrow road to go with 160km/h Patrick.. looks like mirrored picture eek! wink
..and the steering wheel is not straight
btw dont you have left hand driving in Malta ?  wink
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by hugo147:
[QBSo, here's what my Bella can do to some bemmers...
Even curving it's the best  wink
http://homepage.oninet.pt/083mep/mis...atmotorway.jpg[/QB]<hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hugo you are Huge !!! You are the man!!
THANK YOU on behalf of every 1.6lt owner here!!!
This picture is dedicated to all 2.0 owners who just dont believe that the 1.6 is almost fast as their 2.0, sorry guys wink 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jomor:
<strong>Thats a very narrow road to go with 160km/h Patrick.. looks like mirrored picture eek! wink
..and the steering wheel is not straight
btw dont you have left hand driving in Malta ?  wink </strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hehe, LOL! you're sharp jomor!!
that was a photoshopped image (only the 2nd one though!) he wa sonly doing about 40 at the time hehe, i just inverted the needle (not the whole pic)
and yes, we do have RHDs in malta; the merc is LHD though cause we bought it unexpectadly in germany so...
it's better in LHD though, cause my dad often travels to europe with it (both for work and holidays)
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btw, Hugo's steerign wheel isnt straight either, i find that a bit strange to tell you the trueth!!
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Banflu:
<strong>btw, Hugo's steerign wheel isnt straight either, i find that a bit strange to tell you the trueth!!</strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">About Hugo's, being that turned is between the limits and can be explained, its just not aligned accurately straight.
Besides, who told you that he isnt cornering with 220km/h 
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