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CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

Car stated making an unusual noise from front passenger corner on Friday night, kind of like a dull intermitent clunck at low speed...once going it pretty much disappeared.

Jacked up that corner yesterday and found grease eveywhere, coming from a split in the cv joint boot. Guess it must have just happened and the 1000 miles that were covered last week caused the boot to expel all the grease and it has run more or less dry, hence the noise....but would appreciate confirmation from those of a more technical disposition!

Next question would be, that if the noise is related to a dry / knacked cv joint....... is it past recovery / rectification by the fitting of a new boot and packing with new grease? Or is it time for a new joint....probably easier to fit a driveshaft complete by all accounts......

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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

The work involved in fitted a new boot is almost the same as fitting a new shaft (unless you go for the split boot that you glue together) however i'd want to make sure that the exisitng joint is spotlessly clean first and thats impossible to do on the car. Drive slowly around the car park on full lock each way, if you get a knocking then the joint's had it.
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

Definitely knackered if it cracks away on full lock and not worth renewing with boot only,and a puckle grease.
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

Thanks for the initial advice / comments. Is it safe to drive on until I get a new drive shaft?
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

That depends on how far away from failing all together it is! If it goes you will loose drive and be stranded, if it fails badly and the shaft comes apart then all sorts of damage could be caused (i've seen this happen on a friends Mini, smashed the track rod and he hit a curb at fairly high speed!)
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

Hey Andy, sounds like it's now dried out, did you ever change those hub nuts? It'll be safe to drive if your sensible, just remember that the suspension will be puting it under extra loading now, I'm having a special last opening day of the garage this saturday coming, so if you fancy a trip up, I know the CV Boot kits cost £17 and are easy to fit and Isuggest calling Geordie Cabbie if you go the complete driveshaft route, there are complete driveshafts on Ebay for £40 too.
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

why not just get a new cv joint? these come with a boot and grease supplied
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

Its knackered! Best to get a new shaft, or if too expensive a new CV joint. There'll be a circlip that locates it to the shaft, but it can be a bug ger to do at times. I've done a few (on other cars), so thinking about it again, best get a new shaft, much less hassle.

Joint incl. boot etc.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALFA-ROMEO-147...1%7C240%3A1318

Complete side O/S but might have N/S too.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alfa-Romeo-Gtv...1%7C240%3A1318

On eBay there's a number s/h at about £30 -£35 plus p&p.

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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

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Hey Andy, sounds like it's now dried out, did you ever change those hub nuts? It'll be safe to drive if your sensible, just remember that the suspension will be puting it under extra loading now, I'm having a special last opening day of the garage this saturday coming, so if you fancy a trip up, I know the CV Boot kits cost £17 and are easy to fit and Isuggest calling Geordie Cabbie if you go the complete driveshaft route, there are complete driveshafts on Ebay for £40 too.
Hey Alex....will come up for sure.....but will make it a day out with the kids so....no work on my motor that day, you'll be glad to hear!!
Thought as much about the joint, so have a replacement driveshaft coming on Tuesday now.....2 more litres of gearbox oil to the wind bud!

Yep...did get the bearings done.....long story....but defo needs a hydraulic press to do......no way could I have done with a few scockets, nuts and a long bolt.... Decided to re-christen my motor "seized" as ever blooming things seems to be that way..these bearings were unreal....made that pinch bolt seem like a piece of cake......
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

Originally Posted by armoore View Post
Its knackered! Best to get a new shaft, or if too expensive a new CV joint. There'll be a circlip that locates it to the shaft, but it can be a bug ger to do at times. I've done a few (on other cars), so thinking about it again, best get a new shaft, much less hassle.

Joint incl. boot etc.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALFA-ROMEO-147...1%7C240%3A1318

Complete side O/S but might have N/S too.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alfa-Romeo-Gtv...1%7C240%3A1318

On eBay there's a number s/h at about £30 -£35 plus p&p.
Armoore, many thanks.....gonna go the whole hog and replace the drive shaft......much easier job IMHO.....thanks for the links....great job. Andy
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

I had both left & right shafts c/w CV couplings replaced under warranty just over a year ago at around 40K km (2 years) from new.

The symptoms started with a soft intermittent clicking noise related to road speed, but very quickly developed into a constant loud and expensive sounding mechanical clacking by the time I eventually headed for the dealer's workshop at not much above walking pace

It was a scary journey and I honestly believed that I would have to abandon the car at the roadside ... however I got there eventually at snail pace and presumably now have another year to go before the next round
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

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2 more litres of gearbox oil to the wind bud!

Yep...did get the bearings done.....long story....but defo needs a hydraulic press to do......no way could I have done with a few scockets, nuts and a long bolt.... Decided to re-christen my motor "seized" as ever blooming things seems to be that way..these bearings were unreal....made that pinch bolt seem like a piece of cake......
No need to waste the oil, just undo the 6 hex bolts on the inner CV, the nuts hold themselves whilst you undo them, so, lift and support nearside, have someone stand on the brakes and loosen the hub nut, remove the brake calliper (advisable for access later), loosen the 6 hex bolts on inner CV, pop out the upper ball joint (again), remove hub nut and extract driveshaft.

The only difficulty when refitting is holding the nuts on when you start them, but refiting is the reverse of removal.

Your more than welcome to come up, just this Sat I've got a cambelt on the go and other niff naff (I hope), just not going too deep, not wanting a car startnded when I have 2 weeks left up here.
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Re: CV joint on way out?....what sort of noise would you expect?

oh no think ive got the same problemo !
oh dear....
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Same here; the million dollar question is just replace the CV joint of the whole shaft? I know Buybpartsby do one for £30 delivered. Where can I get a GTV shaft? Can't I just replace one side of a CV joint?

I've gotta fix my aircon compressor and now have this extra headache of the CV joint. How long would it take my indy to fit a CV joint in comparison to a whole shaft?
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Going to take longer to fit a joint as the job is the same to get the shaft out, but then the extra work to remove and refit a new joint. Inners are fairly easy as they slide off the splines. Done three(!) of them, but haven't had to do an outer yet ... fingers-crossed!
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How much would it cost to get this done at specialist....... mines been making that sound for a while now, just need to find the time to sort out
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