Bmw 1 series & 147 TS 2.0

I test drove the 118i, i found it to be basic interms of the interior(radio) aircon, steering wheel controls and i didnt like that fact that the rear windows are manual.Its plastic bits are pilling off and its newer than my 147 which looks so much better than the BMW.I dont mind the car, its just that its only 95kw(then again i wont be driving it much).The suspension however is good.It has ranflats.

This is not to say it will be replacing the 147.It will be an addition.If i buy it.

Manual windows?

Thought they didn't make those in 2008 production cars.

I went from a 147TS to a 120D SE, and have to say the BMW was a cracking car with massive cornering ability in comparison to the 147, huge economy and aceleration.
Downside was loads on the road and poor ride on runflats.

Its a 2005 car.I was shocked.I have seen it on an Opel Astra 2001 model.To me it doesnt make sense.

Originally Posted by BigFoot

Manual windows?

Thought they didn't make those in 2008 production cars.

BMW

Even the ashtray/cig lighter is an option these days.
"Smoker's Pack" they call it.

my 8yo 2l TS proved better off the lights than a spanking new 120d yesterday.

ok, not a glamarous car, but BMW 2.Od is one of their best engines, and with the torque of diesel i would have expected a doing tbh. the same bmw engine pulls 5 series, soo it must be powerful enough.

Originally Posted by belfast bob

my 8yo 2l TS proved better off the lights than a spanking new 120d yesterday.

ok, not a glamarous car, but BMW 2.Od is one of their best engines, and with the torque of diesel i would have expected a doing tbh. the same bmw engine pulls 5 series, soo it must be powerful enough.

The BMW wasn't trying. There is no way on earth a 147TS can live with a 120D in the performance stakes.

Originally Posted by BigFoot

Manual windows?

Thought they didn't make those in 2008 production cars.

the new 08 grande punto has manual rears!

Originally Posted by tony44

The BMW wasn't trying. There is no way on earth a 147TS can live with a 120D in the performance stakes.

im in a 156, and he defo was trying

it was a sprint from lights to a carriage way, up a steep slip road - why the diesel torque from the BMW didnt come through i dont know - guess it kept dying at about 4k revs and he had to keep changing up

Well I know what i'll be replacing my 147 when the time comes, another 147

Originally Posted by belfast bob

im in a 156, and he defo was trying

it was a sprint from lights to a carriage way, up a steep slip road - why the diesel torque from the BMW didnt come through i dont know - guess it kept dying at about 4k revs and he had to keep changing up

Sorry not a chance.

The 120D 0-60 is in the region of 7.6s 156/147 are nowhere near. He wasn't trying or he missed a gear. They rev to about 4500 but 1st gear is short.

Not a huuuge difference in performance really,
from 60-100mph the 120d is only 0.7s of a second quicker.
It would have a great off-the-line start for those who care about that sort of carry on


Anyway driver error is worth a lot!

20.3s 0-160kph bmw
22.0s 0-160kph tspark
7.6s 0-100kph bmw
8.6s 0-100kph tspark

Originally Posted by tony44

Sorry not a chance.

The 120D 0-60 is in the region of 7.6s 156/147 are nowhere near. He wasn't trying or he missed a gear. They rev to about 4500 but 1st gear is short.

i will go with the driver error on gear change then

Originally Posted by BigFoot

Manual windows?

Thought they didn't make those in 2008 production cars.

My old company late 2006 vectra sri 150 had manual rear windows! Why do they bother these days!!

probably saves 0.2 pence per unit

Originally Posted by Cunn21

Well I know what i'll be replacing my 147 when the time comes, another 147

or maybe a 149

Who cares if the 120d is faster than a 147? The 1 series BMW is plug ugly. You would need to be moving quickly to avoid people laughing at it.

Originally Posted by symonh2000

Who cares if the 120d is faster than a 147? The 1 series BMW is plug ugly. You would need to be moving quickly to avoid people laughing at it.

Have you seen a 1 coupe on the road yet? Much better looking than the hatch, and its pretty much exactly the same proportions as the original E30 coupe

Originally Posted by Pud237

Have you seen a 1 coupe on the road yet? Much better looking than the hatch, and its pretty much exactly the same proportions as the original E30 coupe

The coupe looks much better and that 123d is a cracking engine.

The coupe does look a lot better, I will admit. It's a shame the current crop of beemers do have questionable styling, as they are great cars. I don't think I could ever own a 4 cylinder one though.

Originally Posted by tony44