hey all just bought my first new fangled alfa used to the old suds, sprints, 75's etc. so didnt know any thing about this master key. what exactly do i need it for, is it only for changing the locks. if not cant i by-pass it somehow. there must be a way!!!!!
its linked to your ecu, if you need a key cut, or if say your alarm resets then you need themaster key to reprogramme, alfa will charge £1000 for replacement ecu and keys, but there maybe an alternative, what does the key you have now look like?
Hi can sort you out ECU, masterkey and keycode box if your car is late 155BHP model, i.e plastic cam cover.
If you want it fitted as well let me know, all it means is that you can get keys coded, but you have to get the keys cut to your orignal locks
hi just read my post from last night, didn't exactly explain my situation. was a bit late and i was a bit on the druunk side. so, i bought the car without the master key, dumb i know but hey we all make mistakes!!! it was a reppo so the last person to own it on the log book was the finance company, so no joy trackin down the previous owner from that. The engine hasn't got a plastic cam cover-unless its under the metal bit!!!!
Basically it won't matter unless you need new keys cutting, or your current key loses it's code. If that happens then you're looking at a £1000 bill. But it's probably very unlikely. Fingers crossed eh? wink
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:<hr /><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by bazza:
<strong>OK, here's the piccy. One on the left is a master key.
http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00292878f00000049.jpg</strong><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I only have a red key also ( not brown master ) .
When i went to my local High Street dry-cleaners-cum-shoe-repairers-cum-key-cutters they have a machine now which could read the code from my red key and could get me a new "coded" key for £25 .
Providing i actually get a new key before i lose the red one does this not solve the Alfa dealer/£1000 problem , or am i missing something ?
( I usually am missing something !! )
like a fly in a cup of tea ,
i'm stirred ,
but not free to fly away .
ok i def dont have the master key goin by the piccie!! my car is registered 1998. that sounds good about the key cutters who can re-program the master, let me know wat company it is. what about if i wanna chip my car or something do i need the master key for that.??
not sure but what i do know is, in 1998 alfa 156 came with code 2 immob, which instead of having a set code i.e "master key" the code changes every time, now i understand that the engine and ecu is the same as 146 so it would make sense to use the same stuff?? i know the 156 has just 2 red keys and thats it,
I had a spare cut by the dealer when i bought the car - an original alfa key, but they said it was impossible to programme it for the remote, even with the master key (strange, I know!), i wonder if these shops could programme it from my working original then...?
I have always understood that in order to programmme a new 'everyday' Alfa-red key you needed the master dark red key and the car. Then there was some specific order of inserting the keys so that the immobiliser transponder in the new everyday key is registered by the car and recognised in future. Can the local key cutter set the immobiliser code as well as the remote locking/alarm? Let's hope so...
well, i was quite worried myself i havent got £1000 for a new ecu, he seemed to know what he was talking about, i mentioned about getting the keys programmed to the ecu, and he said he doesnt need to, it was an excuse for people to chargew you extra m0oney, master key has a fixed four digit code whicj it emits everytime it goes near the igniton, i will post wether it works when i get it cut this weekend ,